well i have been very lucky that we have so many good people in SNORE willing to help. a few years ago i needed plumbing help and ken flippen turned me on to a friend who helped me out. i needed A/C help and john pelliser was there for me. just this friday ed maguire helped me on my bubbler system. now i need a good electrician to look at some old wiring in the house i bought to update it for a new washer and dryer. dave, 5064152.